Prime, Jack3d, and creatine?

[jbt3290]

I was wondering if stacking these 3 would be a good idea? My goals are to gain lots of muscle but also lean out (i.e. lower my body fat significantly). Would the creatine give me too much of a bloat (in relation to my goals)?

[dexterium]

Originally Posted by jbt3290

I was wondering if stacking these 3 would be a good idea? My goals are to gain lots of muscle but also lean out (i.e. lower my body fat significantly). Would the creatine give me too much of a bloat (in relation to my goals)?

Jack3d already contains creatine monohydrate. If you want to lean out and gain muscle at the same time, go with Anabolic Pump and Prime and Jack3d. Anabolic Pump directs carbohydrates to muscles and away from fat. Furthermore, it increases AMPk which increases fat loss. AP will super saturate muscles with glucose and amino acids which will increase cell volumization and thus increase protein synthesis.

[hotredchili]

IMHO, a Jack3d plus PowerFULL combo is a perfect pre-workout stack for muscle gain/fat loss.

As far as *supplementing your supplements*...I throw a scoop of BCAAs and glutamine into my Jack3d as well...my guess is that you're tying to avoid catabolism with the creatine and I think BCAAs are a perfect compliment to the stack (instead of more creatine which as dexterium said is already in Jack3d)

My experience has been about 35 min before workout take the Jack3d, BCAAs, and PowerFULL (PowerFULL is optional but great!).

On my drive back home from the gym I take Anabolic Pump, 15-20 min later I have a post workout meal/drink with 40g (simple) carbs and then my Prime.

Best of luck with your goals...you're definitely on the right track!

[jbt3290]

thanks for your help guys! however, i cannot take anabolic pump because i had an allergic reaction to it, and i was told told hold off on using powerfull because my GH levels are naturally high (im 19). but what would you recommend BCAA wise?

[Casey@USPlabs]

Originally Posted by jbt3290

thanks for your help guys! however, i cannot take anabolic pump because i had an allergic reaction to it, and i was told told hold off on using powerfull because my GH levels are naturally high (im 19). but what would you recommend BCAA wise?

PowerFULL is intended for 18 and up. It is not supressive you would still see gains with zero side-effects. No issues at 19, however, basic supplementation is usually the best route at that age. I honestly wish I would have had that advice at that age. So much wasted $$$...

BCAA - I like to go with bulk BCAA and mix Propel drink mix with it for a few reasons. The vitamin/mineral blend will help with BCAA absorption and Propel is naturally flavored. Many of the BCAA products that are available are filled with crappy artificial flavors and dyes... EWWW

I personally use Orbit Nutritions Anabolic 411 because it is a filler, junk free bulk BCAA with a killer 4:1:1 ratio...

[hotredchili]

Originally Posted by jbt3290

thanks for your help guys! however, i cannot take anabolic pump because i had an allergic reaction to it, and i was told told hold off on using powerfull because my GH levels are naturally high (im 19). but what would you recommend BCAA wise?

If you've got a Vitamin Shoppe nearby, their brand is good and reasonably priced...it's called Body Tech Instantized BCAA Powder. There's a pre-mesaured scoop in there and you're good to go...I mix it right into my Jack3d. I throw a scoop of BodyTech Glutamine in my Jack3d too...it's great for the brain and digestive tract PLUS it enhances the effects of the beta-alanine in your Jack3d.

And beta-alanine is the good stuff that improves strength, mass, endurance, power...

Now regarding the BCAAs. They are usually considered a "post workout" supp but I like to bracket BCAAs before and after my workouts.

[jbt3290]

wow guys that helped me out a bunch thank you! casey, i would definately be taking powerfull right now, but ive read numerous accounts online of people getting gyno while taking it. i already have some pubertal gyno, so i dont want to make it worse (and at my age playing around with GH seems like it could do so). do you think this is likely? because i remember reading that powerfull lowers the amount of a certain female hormone. so oculd it potentially lessen gyno?

[dexterium]

there is no way that PowerFULL would give you gyno. I don't know if it would lessen gyno. I can't really give advice to you about PowerFULL since you are 19... but to answer the question: no it won't mess with your GH levels.