Asteriod Stack + Recreate + Muscletech Products???

[sircrazyfoot]

I was wondering if it will be benifitial to add recreate to the Asteriod stack? Or will that limit muscle gains? And will the Asteriod stack work well together with Anator P70, Nitrotech, and Celltech from Muscletech? And What would be the most effective way to stack all these products working out 5 days on, 2 days off.

[dexterium]

Originally Posted by sircrazyfoot

I was wondering if it will be benifitial to add recreate to the Asteriod stack? Or will that limit muscle gains? And will the Asteriod stack work well together with Anator P70, Nitrotech, and Celltech from Muscletech? And What would be the most effective way to stack all these products working out 5 days on, 2 days off.

If you want to lose body fat, adding Recreate will be effective. It won't limit muscle gains; just make sure you're eating enough.

I think that Anator P70 would work well with the Asteroid Stack. However, there are better options than Cell Tech and Nitrotech. Go with Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein. I would go with another creatine; cell tech has a lot of sugar.

If you take out Cell Tech, you can just follow the directions on all the supplements and it will work fine. If you want, you can post up your diet and I will put the products in their appropriate place.

[sircrazyfoot]

Thanks for the advise i'll drop the cell-tech and and switch out the nitro-tech for the Op. Nu. whey protien. Heres a basic outline of the diet I have been trying for a couple of months now. (I get 4 to 5 days of restistance training each week and 1 to 2 intense cardio workouts each week)



Meal 1 8am
600 calories
60% Carb. (oatmeal, whole wheat bread, fruit, etc..)
40% Protien (eggs, chicken, lean ham, etc..)


Meal 2 10am
500 calories
50% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruit, etc..)
50% Protien (chicken, tuna, peanutbutter etc..)


Meal 3 12noon
600 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat Breads/Pastas, nuts etc..)
60% Protien (Chicken, Fish, lowfat deli meats etc..)
+veggies


Meal 4 2pm (pre-workout)
500 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruits etc..)
60% Protien (deli meats, protien shake, tuna etc..)


Meal 5 4pm (post-workout)
600 calories
20% Carb. (Fast Carbs: White Bread, Nonfat candy etc..)80% Protien (Protien shake, deli meats, tuna, chicken etc..)


Meal 6 inbetween 6 and 8pm
700 calories
100% Protien (Chicken, Fish, Seafood etc..) +veggies


Total 3500 calories

[georgeadam]

Originally Posted by sircrazyfoot

Thanks for the advise i'll drop the cell-tech and and switch out the nitro-tech for the Op. Nu. whey protien. Heres a basic outline of the diet I have been trying for a couple of months now. (I get 4 to 5 days of restistance training each week and 1 to 2 intense cardio workouts each week)



Meal 1 8am
600 calories
60% Carb. (oatmeal, whole wheat bread, fruit, etc..)
40% Protien (eggs, chicken, lean ham, etc..)


Meal 2 10am
500 calories
50% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruit, etc..)
50% Protien (chicken, tuna, peanutbutter etc..)


Meal 3 12noon
600 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat Breads/Pastas, nuts etc..)
60% Protien (Chicken, Fish, lowfat deli meats etc..)
+veggies


Meal 4 2pm (pre-workout)
500 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruits etc..)
60% Protien (deli meats, protien shake, tuna etc..)


Meal 5 4pm (post-workout)
600 calories
20% Carb. (Fast Carbs: White Bread, Nonfat candy etc..)80% Protien (Protien shake, deli meats, tuna, chicken etc..)


Meal 6 inbetween 6 and 8pm
700 calories
100% Protien (Chicken, Fish, Seafood etc..) +veggies


Total 3500 calories

I'm doing something very similar...I have a thread on here as well, and I'm starting up tomorrow. I'm doing Asteroid, plus Recreate, and I would have gone ON Whey after Dex's suggestion, but already had the NitroTech. MuscleTech makes a Creatine called Creatine 6000, or something like that, the bottle's at my office, but its straight creatine, no additives so no sugar. It was relatively inexpensive as well, considering it was MuscleTech. What are your stats? I'm asking because I'm only going about 2200 calories daily at about a 10/30/60 ratio of Fat/Carb/Protein Calories (but I'm also a Fat@$$ right now and I'm trying to shed about 60ish pounds). Also, if you wanted to stick around the same calories and get a little bit better night time protien, maybe lower the calories a little from two of your daily meals and throw on GNC's PM Protein right before you go to bed. Its 190 calories and only 2g Carbs and 2g Fat, but 40g of a mixture of Whey (fast acting) and Casein (slow acting) proteins that will keep a constant delivery of protein while you sleep. Just a thought. I'm really interested in comparing results. I'll post mine up here every week or every three weeks or so.

[sircrazyfoot]

[quote=georgeadam;7986]What are your stats? I'm asking because I'm only going about 2200 calories daily at about a 10/30/60 ratio of Fat/Carb/Protein Calories (but I'm also a Fat@$$ right now and I'm trying to shed about 60ish pounds).

I'm about 190 Ibs 10% bodyfat, I want to get to about 225-230 Ibs and not go above 10% bodyfat, if anything my bodyfat % will hopefully fall a little with the addition of recreate.

[georgeadam]

[quote=sircrazyfoot;7987]

Originally Posted by georgeadam

What are your stats? I'm asking because I'm only going about 2200 calories daily at about a 10/30/60 ratio of Fat/Carb/Protein Calories (but I'm also a Fat@$$ right now and I'm trying to shed about 60ish pounds).

I'm about 190 Ibs 10% bodyfat, I want to get to about 225-230 Ibs and not go above 10% bodyfat, if anything my bodyfat % will hopefully fall a little with the addition of recreate.

What sort of workout and cardio split are you doing?

[sircrazyfoot]

I switch up my workout routien a lot but this is generally what I do in a week.



Mon-Resistance (arms, chest, shoulders)
Tue-Cardio (1+ hr run)
Wed-Resistance (abs, back)
Thur-Cardio (1+ hr run)
Fri-Resistance (legs)
Sat-Resistance (full body workout)
Sun- Off/Rest

[sircrazyfoot]

Originally Posted by dexterium

If you want to lose body fat, adding Recreate will be effective. It won't limit muscle gains; just make sure you're eating enough.

I think that Anator P70 would work well with the Asteroid Stack. However, there are better options than Cell Tech and Nitrotech. Go with Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein. I would go with another creatine; cell tech has a lot of sugar.

If you take out Cell Tech, you can just follow the directions on all the supplements and it will work fine. If you want, you can post up your diet and I will put the products in their appropriate place.

How does this look to you (note: I'll switch out the nitro-tech when I run out of my current supply)

Meal 1 8am
600 calories
60% Carb. (oatmeal, whole wheat bread, fruit, etc..)
40% Protein (eggs, chicken, lean ham, etc..)
Supplements: - 2 Caps “Recreate” 30 min before breakfast
- 2 Caps “Prime” w/ Breakfast
- 1 Cap “Anabolic-Pump” w/ Breakfast
- 1 Scoop “Nitro-Tech” w/ Breakfast

Meal 2 10am
500 calories
50% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruit, etc..)
50% Protein (chicken, tuna, peanut butter etc..)


Meal 3 12noon
600 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat Breads/Pastas, nuts etc..)
60% Protein (Chicken, Fish, low fat deli meats etc..)
+veggies
Supplements: - 2 Caps “Prime” w/ Lunch
- 1 Cap “Anabolic-Pump” w/ Lunch


Meal 4 2pm (pre-workout)
500 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruits etc..)
60% Protein (deli meats, protein shake, tuna etc..)
Supplements: - 1 Cap “Recreate” sometime between 2 and 4pm
- 3 Caps “Powerfull” 30 min before workout
- 1 Scoop “Nitro-Tech” w/ pre workout meal

Meal 5 4pm (post-workout)
600 calories
20% Carb. (Fast Carbs: White Bread, Nonfat candy etc..)
80% Protein (Protein shake, deli meats, tuna, chicken etc..)
Supplements: - 1 Cap “Anabolic-Pump” w/ post workout meal
- 2 Scoops “Anator-P70” Right after workout


Meal 6 in-between 6 and 8pm
700 calories
100% Protein (Chicken, Fish, Seafood etc..) +veggies
Supplements: - 2 Caps “Powerfull” before bed
- 2 Caps “Prime” w/ Dinner
- 1 Scoop “Nitro-Tech” w/ Dinner

Total 3500 calories

[dexterium]

Originally Posted by sircrazyfoot

Thanks for the advise i'll drop the cell-tech and and switch out the nitro-tech for the Op. Nu. whey protien. Heres a basic outline of the diet I have been trying for a couple of months now. (I get 4 to 5 days of restistance training each week and 1 to 2 intense cardio workouts each week)



Meal 1 8am
600 calories
60% Carb. (oatmeal, whole wheat bread, fruit, etc..)
40% Protien (eggs, chicken, lean ham, etc..)


Meal 2 10am
500 calories
50% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruit, etc..)
50% Protien (chicken, tuna, peanutbutter etc..)


Meal 3 12noon
600 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat Breads/Pastas, nuts etc..)
60% Protien (Chicken, Fish, lowfat deli meats etc..)
+veggies


Meal 4 2pm (pre-workout)
500 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruits etc..)
60% Protien (deli meats, protien shake, tuna etc..)


Meal 5 4pm (post-workout)
600 calories
20% Carb. (Fast Carbs: White Bread, Nonfat candy etc..)80% Protien (Protien shake, deli meats, tuna, chicken etc..)


Meal 6 inbetween 6 and 8pm
700 calories
100% Protien (Chicken, Fish, Seafood etc..) +veggies


Total 3500 calories

I think all looks well except for the post-workout carbs. Go with complex here too.

[dexterium]

Originally Posted by sircrazyfoot

How does this look to you (note: I'll switch out the nitro-tech when I run out of my current supply)

Meal 1 8am
600 calories
60% Carb. (oatmeal, whole wheat bread, fruit, etc..)
40% Protein (eggs, chicken, lean ham, etc..)
Supplements: - 2 Caps “Recreate” 30 min before breakfast
- 2 Caps “Prime” w/ Breakfast
- 1 Cap “Anabolic-Pump” w/ Breakfast
- 1 Scoop “Nitro-Tech” w/ Breakfast

Take Anabolic Pump 15 minutes before breakfast.

Meal 2 10am
500 calories
50% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruit, etc..)
50% Protein (chicken, tuna, peanut butter etc..)


Meal 3 12noon
600 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat Breads/Pastas, nuts etc..)
60% Protein (Chicken, Fish, low fat deli meats etc..)
+veggies
Supplements: - 2 Caps “Prime” w/ Lunch
- 1 Cap “Anabolic-Pump” w/ Lunch

Take AP 15 minutes before lunch.


Meal 4 2pm (pre-workout)
500 calories
40% Carb. (whole wheat breads, nuts, fruits etc..)
60% Protein (deli meats, protein shake, tuna etc..)
Supplements: - 1 Cap “Recreate” sometime between 2 and 4pm
- 3 Caps “Powerfull” 30 min before workout
- 1 Scoop “Nitro-Tech” w/ pre workout meal

Meal 5 4pm (post-workout)
600 calories
20% Carb. (Fast Carbs: White Bread, Nonfat candy etc..)
80% Protein (Protein shake, deli meats, tuna, chicken etc..)
Supplements: - 1 Cap “Anabolic-Pump” w/ post workout meal
- 2 Scoops “Anator-P70” Right after workout

Take Anabolic Pump 15 minutes before post-workout meal. And change up the carbs to complex.

Meal 6 in-between 6 and 8pm
700 calories
100% Protein (Chicken, Fish, Seafood etc..) +veggies
Supplements: - 2 Caps “Powerfull” before bed
- 2 Caps “Prime” w/ Dinner
- 1 Scoop “Nitro-Tech” w/ Dinner

Total 3500 calories

My comments above in bold.