BigVrunga's Mega-Dose Cissus / Symmetry Log

[BigVrunga]

BigVrunga's
MEGA-DOSE CISSUS LOG

This will be my log for the Mega-Dose Cissus trial from USP Labs (thanks again for the opportunity guys!). I originally planned on stacking it with Universal's PGHT but have since decided to discontinue all supplements (including stims, camphobolic, etc) in an effort to make an accurate report of a high dose of Cissus Qudrangularis by itself.

Current Stats:

Height: 6'
Weight: 214 lbs
BF%: ~10.5

I am currently cutting and trying to get to 8% bodyfat. I started trying to lean out about a year ago,when I was 240lbs and ~18%+ BF. For the remainder of this week I am at ~2500cals and a 40/40/20 ratio. The rest of the trial will be done with strict carb cycling...2 low days 1 high day, etc.

If Im not below 10%BF by the end of June, its CKD time...

BV

[BigVrunga]

4th day on the Mega-Dose Cissus, feeling pumped all day, and I notice an increase in vascularity. Going for + maitenece cals for the next few days,and starting a CKD wednesday.

BV

[BigVrunga]

How does it compare in benefits to the 6-8? Are you noticing anything that you didn't notice before, or are the effects just more pronounced?

Pumps are much more pronounced than on a normal dosage. The low libido is a surprising side, as I would have expected my sex drive to be legenday on this much Cissus Its not that Im having any hardware troubles at all - just a lack of interest like when Im on 50mg/day ATD. I even stopped taking Finasteride just to rule out the chanced of DHT suppression as the culprit - no change.

Although it does seem to be getting back to normal...nothing new to report on strength, but havent hit the weights since tuesday. Chest/Back tonight so we'll see what happens.

Also to mention - I seem to be needing a lot of sleep since Ive started the Cissus. Dont know if its related to it or what, but thank goodness for the nap room at work

BV

[BigVrunga]

Did deadlifts yesterday after not doing them for about 4-5 weeks. 405 went up for 10 without an issue, and pulled 455 after I was done, and it went up pretty smooth. That's cool.

After the first week, here are my observations:

Pros:
Great pumps, muscles feel fulll all day

Cons:
Libido seems a little suppressed

So-so's: No strength gains yet

Keep in mind, Im cutting and in a caloric defecit, so Im not really expecting any strength gains either.

Compared to a normal dose of Cissus, pumps are definitely enhanced. But usually around day 5-6 of Cissus at 6 caps/day libido is through the roof.

BV

[Blap Blaow]

are you measuring bf% as you go since you're cutting or are you just going by the scale/mirror? I'm interested in seeing how this stack effects your lbm whilst on a calorie deficit.

[BigVrunga]

Both, I test BF% once a week. I havent really been too intense with my diet/training the past 2 weeks, so my stats have pretty much stayed the same. I can say that with the high dose of cissus, fat loss definitely seems to be elevated with a clean diet and ample cardio.

Day 16

Did Legs on Saturday, strength felt good but nothing in the way of unexpected increases.

Started the Symmetry today.

Pros so far:

Good, if not great, pumps in the gym

Joints feel great

Nothing in the way of negative sides really. I have to say with an Anti-E stacked these herbal anabolics tend to be more intense....

Ive been in a pretty bad mood lately though, its been tough to stay motivated...my girl asked me to wait for her to jump on the CKD, I had planned to start that over a week ago - but this coming wednesday is the day so Im looking forward to that.

Im glad she'll be running it with me actually - she cooks most of my food

BV

[BigVrunga]

Sorry about the slow respsonse time...really hasnt been much to report.

Into the 3rd week of the megadose- I basically just felt like I would have on it at 6caps/day...except my libido felt suppressed. I dropped it down to 6 cissus/ 6 symmetry a couple days ago, and what do you know the lbidio boost Ive come to associate with CissusRX is back.

Interesting.

Ive been slacking a bit on diet, just been working too much - been eating clean and a lot but havent had the time to get in all the cardio. Still not on the CKD

BV

[BigVrunga]

OK Guys Ive decided to back off the mega-dose of CissusRX/Synnergy Early. For some reason, the high dose seemed to tank my libido, and I wasnt noticing much difference compared to a normal, 6 cap/day dose. Odd...

I dropped back to 6 caps/day, and I can barely control myself when my girl is around. Hell, I CANT control myself...THIS is the effects of Cissus Ive come to know and love dearly Perhaps there is such a thing as too much of a good thing? Or, whatever cissus is doing if its megadosed (in mysystem, anyway), it pushes hormones out of balance just enough to negatively effect sex drive?

Anyway, Ive started a log for Scivation's Anagen and LipidFX, and with this Im running CissusRX/Symmetry at 6caps each per day.

It will be interesting to see how these products stack together, and should be a nice somplement to the 'Stacks' forum over at USPLABS.tv, so check it out if you're interested:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/sciva...dfx-trial.html

BV

[spoonman]

kickass feedback man!

Thanks for doing the log and Im interested in the Anagen/LipidFX log as well!