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Old 11-04-2009, 04:31 PM
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Default Test boost?

Since powerfull is for boosting your GH levels, can you take a test boost along with it? Like T-bomb II for example. Currently I am taking the Prime, powerfull, and the analbolic pump.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:02 PM
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Also I take powerfull in the dosage below.

2- when I wake up
2- 30minutes before workout (have a meal 30 minutes before taking the powerfull)
2- before bed (I eat before I go to bed because I am trying to put on more weight. I eat to help prevent muscle breakdown because 8 hours without food and my metabolismdoesnt do well. Will I have more advantages of not eating before bed and just taking the powerfull?)

Prime dosage

2 with breakfast
2 with lunch
2 with dinner (after workout)

Anabolic pump

1- 15 mins before breakfast (usually take the powerfull at the same time)
1- 15 mins before lunch
1- right after my work out before my post work out weight gainer

Please offer feedback.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:37 PM
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I don't know why you would want to. T-bomb was an absolute waste for me when I took it. Plus, that form of tribulis in that product is like the tribulis in Prime's retarded younger brother. The two species are different, and the one in Prime actually does something.

The only t boosting products that worked for me are hormonal supps and anti estrogens. I think the risks involved with these products are higher than the benefits, plus you have the best natural stack going right now.

Add creatine, glutamine, and Jack3d to the stack.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:38 PM
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sound advice^^^

really, the A-Stack in itself, coupled with the right fuel (food), will produce all the results you are looking for..if you really want to use a product such as you mention above, there would be no interactions.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:12 PM
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I think eating 30 min prior to take pf will blunt the effects. It really should be an hour away from carbs. Right now I take my protein before bed and wait an hour before taking night dose of pf
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:36 PM
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Default True that

From everything ive read, and been told, do not take Powerfull in the presence of Insulin raising foods-CARBS.
Insulin is supposed to hamper the acitivity of GH, or vice versa.

Im not sure how to time the morning Powerfull dose, but I have been using it before my workouts and at bedtime.

I eat 2 hours before my workout. 1 1/2 hours go by and I take the Powerfull AND Prime. That leaves a whole half hour before I touch a wieght. As we arrive at the gym, I usually start drinking my shotgun after my first set, and sip through it.

Before half way through my workout, im finished the shotgun drink.

Even though there are no carbs in this pre-workout protein drink, I think its supposed to release some insulin. But by that time, hopefully Powerfull will be well on its way working.

Hopefully Snagency will jump in here again and set us right.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:28 AM
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I think you'd be better off dosing PF 2x daily.
3 caps, 30min prior to training (also at least 1hr away from food); 3 caps at bed time, again on empty stomach.
to clarify, PF is best utilized 60min away from carbs, not 30.
the insulin release from NOshotgun (VPX right?) is minimal, naturally occuring to uptake BCAA's, will not affect PF gh release.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:55 AM
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Update!

I ordered bulk supersaponins fron nutraplanet, which is made by USPowders. I am going to see if there is really anything to test boosting components from the brand I trust. You can get it at nutra planet.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:15 AM
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Couple of things. Can you reccommend good clean high calorie foods to help me put on good lean muscle. Currently I eat every 2-3 hours. I currently take in about 500 caloires per meal. I have some body fat I also want to get rid of. Stomach area of course. A little more than a pinch.

Also if I use the jack 3d along with the PF when should I start drinking it. Does it the same way the guy mention he does his no shotgun? Take my pf 30 mins before work out (1 hour after meal) and take my jack 3d right when I start working out? I dont want to mess up the effects of the PF.

Lastly the powerfull supposively boost your test 54% or something. Will I hard myself adding a Tbomb II in the mix along with these other products? Also will my test stablize back to normal when I cycle off?

Any advice is appriciated. Thanks guys!
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:32 AM
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Couple of things. Can you reccommend good clean high calorie foods to help me put on good lean muscle. Currently I eat every 2-3 hours. I currently take in about 500 caloires per meal. I have some body fat I also want to get rid of. Stomach area of course. A little more than a pinch.

Also if I use the jack 3d along with the PF when should I start drinking it. Does it the same way the guy mention he does his no shotgun? Take my pf 30 mins before work out (1 hour after meal) and take my jack 3d right when I start working out? I dont want to mess up the effects of the PF.

Lastly the powerfull supposively boost your test 54% or something. Will I hard myself adding a Tbomb II in the mix along with these other products? Also will my test stablize back to normal when I cycle off?

Any advice is appriciated. Thanks guys!
Your eating plan is sound. I would use complex carbs in each meal with protein from meat and powder. Google the glycemic index for examples of low GI foods.

Taking Jack3d and powerful together will not hurt anything. I do that, and the effects are awesome. Jack3d needs about 30 minutes to actually kick in, so no worries there.

Adding something like tbomb will be fine. I do not know what kind of an increase it will give, but if you got the cash, go for it. I would reccomend something other than tbomb though. I just bought bulk supersaponins from nutra planet under USPowders. It is tribulis too, but a better extract.

Post your meal plan up here so snagency can further help you out. Guy is a guru on this stuff
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