P-Slin and cutting diet

[IronWarrior]

Originally Posted by oufinny

Let me see if I understand, still a novice so bear with me. So grab some almonds or maybe some fish oil (can I take caps or does it have to be liquid?) and then dose my AP prior to carb meal(s)? I am on the verge now because I technically can run another bottle of AP BUT it will lead to an extensive break after I finish it due to running it past 14 weeks after the aforementioned bottle. Any further advice from the experts is ALWAYS well received.

Sorry just saw this. Yes almonds are great, fish oil in caps is how I take fish oil. However you missunderstood the order of doing things. You should still take your AP first and give it it's 15 minutes to get in the bloodstream but when you begin eating or maybe just a few minutes before your carb intake eat the fats so they get in your system first so when the carbs hit your stomach they already have something there to slow the absorbsion a little. In turn causing the blood sugar levels to rise in a controlled manner that with P-Slin doing it's thing already never requires insulin to even peak it's ugly head out. I tend to always put my fats if seperate from my meat in the begin of my meal and even wait a few minute after that to eat. Just eat some nuts chat for a minute or so or finish preparing my food and then eat the protien and carbs. I ALWAYS do this when having a powder as my form of protien even post workout. I trust P-Slin to get it all in my muscle and it has so far.

[oufinny]

Originally Posted by IronWarrior

Sorry just saw this. Yes almonds are great, fish oil in caps is how I take fish oil. However you missunderstood the order of doing things. You should still take your AP first and give it it's 15 minutes to get in the bloodstream but when you begin eating or maybe just a few minutes before your carb intake eat the fats so they get in your system first so when the carbs hit your stomach they already have something there to slow the absorbsion a little. In turn causing the blood sugar levels to rise in a controlled manner that with P-Slin doing it's thing already never requires insulin to even peak it's ugly head out. I tend to always put my fats if seperate from my meat in the begin of my meal and even wait a few minute after that to eat. Just eat some nuts chat for a minute or so or finish preparing my food and then eat the protien and carbs. I ALWAYS do this when having a powder as my form of protien even post workout. I trust P-Slin to get it all in my muscle and it has so far.

Really appreciate your input on this and will surely give it a try today when I take my AP pre-workout this afternoon. the P-slin is working well, had it twice so far. The first time I did not have enough break between meal 3 and pre-w/o and the P-Slin did not work as well as it did the second time! Yesterdays leg workout was pretty burl to say the least, got in press, quat, deads, seated hams and another new one a friend showed us (have no clue the name). Needless to say, my legs are FEELING it today but the great thing was how strong I was throughout the whole leg workout! Gotta love me some P-slin.

On a bit of a side note. What is a good rule of thumb for cutting when it comes to cycling macros to avoid metabolic adaptation? Right now I am normally 50/30/20 P/F/C and then switch to 40/40/20 P/C/F occasionally but if there is logic behind what to do when, please share.

[IronWarrior]

Originally Posted by oufinny

Really appreciate your input on this and will surely give it a try today when I take my AP pre-workout this afternoon. the P-slin is working well, had it twice so far. The first time I did not have enough break between meal 3 and pre-w/o and the P-Slin did not work as well as it did the second time! Yesterdays leg workout was pretty burl to say the least, got in press, quat, deads, seated hams and another new one a friend showed us (have no clue the name). Needless to say, my legs are FEELING it today but the great thing was how strong I was throughout the whole leg workout! Gotta love me some P-slin.

On a bit of a side note. What is a good rule of thumb for cutting when it comes to cycling macros to avoid metabolic adaptation? Right now I am normally 50/30/20 P/F/C and then switch to 40/40/20 P/C/F occasionally but if there is logic behind what to do when, please share.

Honestly you have to start to notice patterns in your reactions to food. Physiological differences however subtle they may be have a direct affect on how each individual processes certain types of food. The real bottom line is that calories in must be less than calories out. When deciding nutrient macros there are a few baselines that are followed but they are so diverse that they are on opposite ends of the spectrum. For example: performance based athletes need more carbs than say a purely aesthetics and muscle mass only person such a s a bodybuilder or someone just doing it to look great with thier shirt off.

Myself I honestly don't see a reason to go above 40% on carbs (carb refeed days excluded), however that is just me. FOr a marathon runner that is probably not the case. For someone who wants to have enough fats to keep testosterone higher naturally I need 30% of my calories to come from fat at a minimum. That is me though. Will it work for you definitely, as the botton line would still be there to lose calories in must be less than calories out. Is it what works best for you maybe not.

I have found with the addition of Anabolic pump and or PSlin I am able to get the best of both worlds. I get to have 25-50 grams of cars 2-3 times a day 25 and get the amount of glycogen in my muscle as if I had slammed a 100gram carb drink because I don't have to eat for an insulin spike to get that benefit with Anabolic Pump. Shortly there after the AP pushes all of those carbs into my muscle and bam I am basically almost back to a state of keto until my next carb containing meal.

My recomendation would be to keep it around a 50p-25f-25c or 50p-30f-20c all the time and do a major carb refeed every 3-4 days as the last meal of your day. This is a meal on top of your other 6 meals for the day. take in 150-200 grams of complex carbs and 20-30 grams of fats, start with 1.5 cups broccoli or asparagus and a hand full of almonds then graduate to 1/2 to 1 cup of oats and a large sweet potato and a banana. Don't drink water for an hour before or after other than sips if you need it to get food down. If you drink surrounding the influx of carbs you will hold a lot of water the next day or so. I also recommend keeping the sodium levels reasonble in this meal.

This worked for me very well. That way you can get in a rhythm with the rest of your diet and it becomes second nature to follow. Then every third night the carbs are like a treat. Not the first time though. You will be excited until about halfway through the meal when you realize you are full and have half a big bowl of oat meal a large sweet potato and banana left to go. Youcan add cinnamon and honey to the sweet potato with some splenda and mix it up like a mashed potatoe, it tates like candied yams!!!!!!!! Well i guess in reality it is just lower sugar content.

[oufinny]

IronWarrior - Thanks for all the tips and information, you are clarifying an otherwise murky sea of information for me. I will see how that carb refeed meal goes, I am due for one tonight I believe if not it will be tomorrow, need to check the fitday to be sure.

[snagency]

Originally Posted by IronWarrior

do a major carb refeed every 3-4 days as the last meal of your day. This is a meal on top of your other 6 meals for the day. take in 150-200 grams of complex carbs and 20-30 grams of fats, start with 1.5 cups broccoli or asparagus and a hand full of almonds then graduate to 1/2 to 1 cup of oats and a large sweet potato and a banana. Don't drink water for an hour before or after other than sips if you need it to get food down. If you drink surrounding the influx of carbs you will hold a lot of water the next day or so. I also recommend keeping the sodium levels reasonble in this meal.

This worked for me very well. That way you can get in a rhythm with the rest of your diet and it becomes second nature to follow. Then every third night the carbs are like a treat. Not the first time though. You will be excited until about halfway through the meal when you realize you are full and have half a big bowl of oat meal a large sweet potato and banana left to go. Youcan add cinnamon and honey to the sweet potato with some splenda and mix it up like a mashed potatoe, it tates like candied yams!!!!!!!! Well i guess in reality it is just lower sugar content.

I figured you'd like this Iron..
you forgot to mention tho: make sure you have that Pslin before this meal!

[IronWarrior]

Yeah I was happy when you suggested it. It is almost the exact one from the Carb Haters Diet I was following from scivation before I added the carbs from using Anabolic Pump ad P-Slin. When you recomended it to me when I was wanting to dry out again I was like Yeah cool! I liked everything about it. I loved the addition of the banana. A lot of times I would forego the sweet potato for extra oatmeal to slow things down a little more. I am going to start a bulking thread when I go back on a bulk phase. Right now I am trying to let myself heal a little so maintenance and healing are the key focus.

Originally Posted by snagency

I figured you'd like this Iron..
you forgot to mention tho: make sure you have that Pslin before this meal!

Absolutely, that is a huge factor in where the meal lands.

[snagency]

i thought i recognized some of your meal strategy..and yeah, I noticed you tweaked the protocol a tad bit, interesting..

[IronWarrior]

Great Minds! We find and like a lot of the same thought processes with diet and training intensity. I love the fact that now we are the ones developing and testing the best ways to eat due to our supplementation. It is like a time of magic and wonder. LOL Really though it is exciting to see how much PSlin and Anabolic Pump are changing the game.

Originally Posted by snagency

i thought i recognized some of your meal strategy..and yeah, I noticed you tweaked the protocol a tad bit, interesting..

[snagency]

Originally Posted by IronWarrior

It is like a time of magic and wonder...

ooooo NICE!

[IronWarrior]

On a side note. SNAGS your legs are looking sick in you avatar!