Want to nclude other supps with my current Asteroid Stack w/ Jack3d

[dildog]

I'm currently on my second week of the Asteroid Stack and Must say.. So far so good! I am also taking Jack3d Preworkout and really am satisfied with how I feel!

I have at my house a bottle of: Axis Labs Creatine Ethyl Ester which they recommend taking; 2250mg per serving
and its just sitting there.. calling my name...

My question is it potentially a bad idea or dangerous to add this into my supplement diet right now..?

And One last question.. someone recently recommended to me ZMA.. can this also be added or would I have any added benefit from it?

Thanks!

--Brandon

[snagency]

depending on how much creatine you are looking to take daily, you could add that CEE in, no worries..just keep in mind that Jack3d contains @1.5g creatine mono per scoop.
as for ZMA - can be added as well (along w/ nighttime PF dose)..what added benefit you receive from it would remain to be seen.

[dildog]

Awesome well this is great news Thanks! So in terms of dosage..each pill of the CEE is 750MG and the dosage recommended by the manufacurer is as follows:

WORKOUT DAYS: 2-4 caps 15-30 preworkout 2-4 caps 15-30 postworkout

NON-WORKOUT DAYS: 2-4 Caps w/ First meal, and 2-4 caps 4-6 hours late with meals.

Should I maybe only incorporate this on rest days? or.. what do you recommend so that I have the most beneficial results and no dangerous or useless results...

[snagency]

depends on how many scoops of Jack3d you use.
if using only 1 scoop, then go ahead and follow CEE directions, maybe 2 caps pre & 4 caps post..
if 2 scoops, then just go with 2 caps both pre & postWO.
if 3 scoops, I would use the CEE only 2 caps postWO.
off days, go ahead and dose as directed.

[dildog]

Originally Posted by snagency

depends on how many scoops of Jack3d you use.
if using only 1 scoop, then go ahead and follow CEE directions, maybe 2 caps pre & 4 caps post..
if 2 scoops, then just go with 2 caps both pre & postWO.
if 3 scoops, I would use the CEE only 2 caps postWO.
off days, go ahead and dose as directed.

Awesome Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for

[strongman-nick]

Originally Posted by dildog

I'm currently on my second week of the Asteroid Stack and Must say.. So far so good! I am also taking Jack3d Preworkout and really am satisfied with how I feel!

I have at my house a bottle of: Axis Labs Creatine Ethyl Ester which they recommend taking; 2250mg per serving
and its just sitting there.. calling my name...

My question is it potentially a bad idea or dangerous to add this into my supplement diet right now..?

And One last question.. someone recently recommended to me ZMA.. can this also be added or would I have any added benefit from it?

Thanks!

--Brandon

Powerfull is sufficient enough and I dont think anything will compare to it for pre bedtime hormonal support. Taking ZMA and powerful together would be like taking two different creating supps. Dont really need the ZMA.

Other then my stack of prime powerful, jack3d, and cissus I am about to start here are the other supps I take.

Scivation whey, xtend amino acids pre during and post workout, waxy maize for a carb supplement, fish oils, and sometimes I throw dark matter into the mix.

[dildog]

Originally Posted by strongman-nick

Powerfull is sufficient enough and I dont think anything will compare to it for pre bedtime hormonal support. Taking ZMA and powerful together would be like taking two different creating supps. Dont really need the ZMA.

Other then my stack of prime powerful, jack3d, and cissus I am about to start here are the other supps I take.

Scivation whey, xtend amino acids pre during and post workout, waxy maize for a carb supplement, fish oils, and sometimes I throw dark matter into the mix.

Thanks for the awesome further input! I have a couple further questions:
1) Dark Matter.. with the creatine and its insulin spiking.. will that be an issue with Asteroid Stack as it says not to take Insulin Mimickers with AP..
2) Jack3d has a good amount of creatine for pre workout.. but.. Dark Matter has creatine but doesnt specify how much creatine it has.. do you think that it is still safe to take post workout as a creatine substitute in addition to jack3d preworkout on workout days..?
3) I am a bit unsure exactly what the insulin issues would be with AP or why it says no Insulin Mimickers.. but what about somethin like weight gainers..? or something with larger than normal amounts of sugar.. any issues?? I actually dont like sweets but what about if I'm out and have some sweets or something.. shouldnt be an issue correct?
4) Lastly.. I rarelyyyyy drink alcohol.. but any issues with all this stuff and alcohol??

Thanks!

[snagency]

Originally Posted by dildog

Thanks for the awesome further input! I have a couple further questions:
1) Dark Matter.. with the creatine and its insulin spiking.. will that be an issue with Asteroid Stack as it says not to take Insulin Mimickers with AP..

no worries, just don't take AP before consuming it.

2) Jack3d has a good amount of creatine for pre workout.. but.. Dark Matter has creatine but doesnt specify how much creatine it has.. do you think that it is still safe to take post workout as a creatine substitute in addition to jack3d preworkout on workout days..?

yes..I assume this means then that you have opted against the CEE?

3) I am a bit unsure exactly what the insulin issues would be with AP or why it says no Insulin Mimickers.. but what about somethin like weight gainers..? or something with larger than normal amounts of sugar.. any issues?? I actually dont like sweets but what about if I'm out and have some sweets or something.. shouldnt be an issue correct?

correct..ppl use AP prior to cheat meals all the time to blunt the effects of eating crap foods..not exactly what it was meant to do, but extremely effective nonetheless.
weight gainers, sugar, food itself is not an insulin mimicker; we produce insulin in response to the food we ingest.

4) Lastly.. I rarelyyyyy drink alcohol.. but any issues with all this stuff and alcohol??

don't drink within 2hrs of dosing any supps.
of course, alcohol itself is counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish, so use at your own discretion.

[dildog]

Originally Posted by snagency

no worries, just don't take AP before consuming it.

Do you mean Immediately or.. @ all that day? What is a saffe timeframe...?

yes..I assume this means then that you have opted against the CEE?

No... I have been taking that as well.. but the Dark Matter looks like a great Alternative on Workout days for PostWorkout..

correct..ppl use AP prior to cheat meals all the time to blunt the effects of eating crap foods..not exactly what it was meant to do, but extremely effective nonetheless.
weight gainers, sugar, food itself is not an insulin mimicker; we produce insulin in response to the food we ingest.

Gotcha! Thank You!

don't drink within 2hrs of dosing any supps.
of course, alcohol itself is counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish, so use at your own discretion.

Doubt I'll drink.. but if I drink Good to know Thanks!

[snagency]

Originally Posted by dildog

Do you mean Immediately or.. @ all that day? What is a saffe timeframe...?

just don't use AP preceeding the Dark Matter, fine to use AP prior to any other feedings that day.