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Originally Posted by USPlabs
What is the lot number on your Cissus bottle?
Where is the research that digestive enzymes sorry "systemic enzymes" help tendonitis and break down the "protein" in the blood?
I'm all for open discussion.
Just a bit weird that you even ventured to use cissus when you are a pitching the european miracle drug on my forum.
If what you are pitiching works so well, why purchase Super Cissus Rx?
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1st of all, the lot # on my bottle is......100409C Exp. Apr. 2012. Purchased at GNC in Capital City Mall, Camp Hill, PA.
2nd. If you don't know the difference between digestive and systemic enzymes, then you are missing out on something. Systemic are enteric coated. This means PH resistant so that they are not dissolved in the stomach for all of you who missed out on BIO 101 in college. Digestive enzymes are not enteric coated, so they dissolve and absorb in the stomach. They also include a lot more than proteolytic enzymes. Proteolytic enzymes are enzymes that break down protein in the blood. Another lesson from Bio I learned was that our body's basic component is enzymes and proteins, followed next by cells.
Digestive enzymes contain amylase, lipase, and proteases. Totally different scenario. I've had mix results with digestive enyzmes since they are meant to break down food only.
3rd. I gave Cissus a chance, because like you, I read all of those testimonials on bodybuilding websites and I figured why not. Can't hurt.
4th. There is no "European miracle drug." You must have misread/misunderstood when I said I don't have a reason to promote anything unless it worked for me or someone else I know (more importantly me).
5th. I don't work for any enzyme company (in case you were wondering). I work for Def. Logistics Agency.
6th. I believe the public has a right to know about if something does or does not work, so that there is no misleading information that it works for everyone. I do this for all my supplements. If something worked for me, then I tell about it. Otherwise, people wouldn't know. Likewise, if something didn't work, I post it too. Not just on this forum. It's just an opinion, not a standard.
I usually give anything a shot, after what I deem is a fair bit of good testimonials and/or research. I can look up the research for you if you want, but I do just as good as anyone who can dig around the internet and pubmed/NIH. Like Cissus, systemic enzymes (especially Wobenzym N) is mainly studied overseas (Germany to be exact). But there are some American studies and a lot of physcial therapist and D.0.'s in the states use it. My own primary care physician sells it. He is a D.O. (aka medical and holistic dr combined). I didn't buy it from him because it's outrageously priced from retail. I did my own research on it. Plus go to vitacost.com or search wobenzym, or many other online retailers and you will literally see 100's of outstanding reviews. Almost all of them are 4.8/5 stars.
The only reason I mention vitacost is that's where I buy a lot of supplements because it's cheaper than most other places. No affiliation. Luckyvitamin has cheap stuff too. I'm thrifty so I like to shop around. Ok. Enough rambling. Do some basic research on it. I work long hours for the government so digging it up again and posting it might take a while. Gotta love the feds.
Anything else, let me know. Once again, I'm sure the enzymes won't work for everyone because nothing else does either. It's all part of a bigger puzzle. It's finding the missing link.